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11Antworten3’097Aufrufevon sunsrmbs · 17. März 2009letzter Beitrag vor 18 Jahren
  1. sunsrmbs9 Beiträge17. März 2009
    Hello

    I am sorry that I have to write in English as my German writing simply doesn't exist.

    We have bought a piece of bauland in Weggis, Kanton Luzern in 2007. After almost 18 months we finally got our build permit issued from Germinde Weggis and ready to start the actual build.

    Our problem now is that we have a budget of 850k for the building cost. This, according to the GU we were talking to, is not nearly enough for a house we are buildling in Weggis. Our hause has 1250 m3, nothing special but two storey house with a wintergarden. The land is on a hill so it is not even. The cost estimate from our GU is over 1 million, without proper Garden, budgeted with 100/ per square meter for the floor (tile or parkett), 30k for the kitchen, 32k for the sanitäre, 32k for Heizung, 32k for electriker, and 250k for the baumeister work.

    Here are the list of cost estimations we have from our GU:

    Grundstück (Vorstudien, Vermessung, Vermarchung, Geotechnische) 100'000

    Vorbereitungsarbeiten 101'800

    Gebäude 811'800

    Umgebung 25'000

    Baunebenkosten 55'400

    Total 1'004'000

    As we are new in this any input & suggestions from you in how we can bring down the cost to be within our budget are very much appreciated.

    Cheers

    LT

  2. fami1867 Beiträge17. März 2009
    Hi there

    Sounds a bit expensive to me. Question, have you already signed a contract with the GU? Because if you haven't I suggest you look for an Architekt and try to build trough him. If you have already signed then I suggest you sit down with him and try to negotiate.

    Let me know...

    fami18

  3. sunsrmbs9 Beiträge17. März 2009
    Hello fami18

    No I have not signed contract yet, only that there is a fee of 1'200 for doing the cost estimation.

    I did have an architect from Weggis, who did the initial desgin & bau permit application for us. He also did a rough estimation of the cost which is similar to that of the GU's.

    LT

  4. ibo736 Beiträge17. März 2009
    Hi,

    Diese Positionen sind +/- OK

    "budgeted with 100/ per square meter for the floor (tile or parkett), 30k for the kitchen, 32k for the sanitäre, 32k for Heizung, 32k for electriker, and 250k for the baumeister work"

    ........but Gebäude 811.800 is little expensive!

    what exactly are they doing here?

    - Grundstück (Vorstudien, Vermessung, Vermarchung, Geotechnische) 100'000

    - Vorbereitungsarbeiten 101'800

    "Umgebung 25'000"

    this is a little bit low. für Hanglage!

    Cheers

    Ibo

  5. sunsrmbs9 Beiträge18. März 2009
    Hello Ibo

    what exactly are they doing here?

    - Grundstück (Vorstudien, Vermessung, Vermarchung, Geotechnische) 100'000

    - Vorbereitungsarbeiten 101'800

    I made a typo here, Groundstück should be 10'000.

    Vorbereitungsarbeiten is for Baugrubenabschlüsse (70'000) and Baugrubenaushub (30'000).

    "Umgebung 25'000"

    this is a little bit low. für Hanglage!

    This is only for doing the drive way in front of the garage and the surrounding area, not the whole gardening. GU originally budgeted 45'000 for the whole thing.

    Gebaude costs about 640 per cubic meter. I'd like to bring it down (I saw people building with 550 per m3). Apart from the obvious things like Kitchen, Sanitär etc what else can one cut the cost ?

    LT

  6. ibo736 Beiträge18. März 2009
    Gebaude costs about 640 per cubic meter. I'd like to bring it down (I saw people building with 550 per m3). Apart from the obvious things like Kitchen, Sanitär etc what else can one cut the cost ?
    Zürcher Baukostenindex Statistisches Amt - Baukostenindex

    you know what is SIA416?

    LG Ibo

  7. sunsrmbs9 Beiträge18. März 2009
    Hello LBO

    No I don't know what is a SIA 416.

  8. ibo736 Beiträge18. März 2009
    SIA Normen

    http://www.sia.ch/download/abo_inhalt_d.pdf

    SIA 416 is a Norm für:

    - Bauteilabmessungen

    - Kennzahlen für die Gebäudetechnik

    - Bezugsgrössen und Kennzahlen für Bauphysik

    - Energie- und Gebäudetechnik

    - usw.

    SIA Online Shop

    http://www.sia.ch/produktevoransicht/i416-1_2007_d.pdf

    Gruss

    Ibo

  9. Vita-men119 Beiträge18. März 2009
    1. Get the compition playing! Ask also other companies/GU's for bids. Should not be so difficult nowadays.

    2. Which things do you really need/which things can be left out the scope?

    3. Think about investments which you can install/do later without any problems. For instance, water ion exchanger treatment, central hooving system.

    4. Can you influence/reduce the Baunebenkosten? (For example, we installed a rain collection system in the design. Additional invesment cost about 8 kCHF, however the cost for water taxes reduce now with 11 kCHF, saving of intitial investment with 3 kCHF plus less cost for water in future.)

    BG

    Vita-men

  10. ibo736 Beiträge18. März 2009
    check this thread http://www.haus-forum.ch/hausplanung-bauland/4846-kubikmeter-berechnen-fuer-preis.html?

  11. sunsrmbs9 Beiträge18. März 2009
    Thank you ibo, vita men for the links & tips. A lot to absorb. Sure will ask around a bit more.

  12. ibo736 Beiträge19. März 2009
    you are welcome and good luck in Weggis

    LG Ibo